Monday, July 25, 2022

Rebuttal: DEMETRIUS MINOR, Conservatives Concerned About The Death Penalty

 7/2022

Full Rebuttal: DEMETRIUS MINOR, National Manager, Conservatives Concerned About The Death Penalty (CCADP)
 
To: Newsweek Editors, US and Intl.
bcc: all editors, Washington Examiner
The Family Vision Media and Project 21
 
bcc: DEMETRIUS MINOR, National Manager for Conservatives Concerned About The Death Penalty (CCADP)
many others
 
RE: Full Rebuttal:
"My Fellow Pro-Life Conservatives: Join the Fight Against the Death Penalty", Opinion, DEMETRIUS MINOR, NEWSWEEK, 7/13/22
Minor is National Manager for Conservatives Concerned About The Death Penalty (CCADP) and is content creator for The Family Vision Media and a Project 21 Member.
 
From: Dudley Sharp, independent researcher, death penalty expert, former opponent, 832-439-2113, CV at bottom
 
I quote Minor then reply as Sharp.
 
Preface:  Since its founding, in 2012/2013, anytime you hear from CCADP, fiction, deception and/or willful ignorance are on display (1). Minor is a standard National Manager (1) for CCADP. I have been sending CCADP reviews, like this, to CCADP and many others, since 2013 (1).
 
CCADP is owned and controlled by Equal Justice USA, a liberal defund the police group (https://ejusa.org/defundingthepoliceprimer/ ).
 
1) Minor: "I realized long ago in a conversation with my pastor that being pro-life is about the totality of life, not just the beginning of life. That conversation gave me a moral sense that the death penalty is wrong." " The pro-life fight continues, and we have the opportunity to sustain momentum, but this must be done with reverence for the totality of life  . . ."
 
Sharp:  For 4,500 years (biblical timeline), the death penalty has had religious support, starting with Genesis 9:6. Anti-death penalty teachings did not occur, in major Christian denominations, until the 1950's, with the Roman Catholic Church not joining that chorus until 2018 (2).
 
Did the bible or basic theology, suddenly change? Of course not (2).
 
Through today and for more than 2000 years, there has been Christian New Testament support for the death penalty, from Genesis to Revelation, from Jesus to St. Dismas, from the Holy Ghost to Popes, Saints, Doctors and Fathers of the Church, church leadership, biblical scholars and theologians that, in breadth and depth, overwhelms any teachings to the contrary (2), particularly those wrongly dependent upon secular concerns such as defense of society and the poor standards of criminal justice systems in protecting the innocent (2).
 
Please forward this to Minor's pastor.
 
2) Minor: "(The) death penalty is misaligned with conservative values like individual liberty, limited government, the protection of the innocent, and of course, the conservative belief that we protect life. Opposing the death penalty is the best way to stay true to conservative principles." " We can abolish the death penalty, that is unquestionably anti-life."
 
Sharp: Minor is all nonsense, opposite reality.
--  Murder is the ultimate violation of individual liberty. Obvious. Murder is a transgression so great that the payment for it is the loss of life for the murderer. See Libertarians: Death Penalty Essential To Justice (3).
--  There is no government program more limited than the death penalty. 0.00075% of US citizens are on death row; on average, we execute 0.0000084% of US citizens (murderers) per year and death row prisoners make up only 0.04% of criminals under government supervision. Is there a government program more limited, that affects fewer than 2500 persons, death row, today? No.
--  The death penalty protects innocents, in three (six) ways, better than does life without parole (LWOP) (4).
--  Minor is clueless that conservatives protect innocent life, as they believe in self defense, defense of others, in just wars and executions, all against unjust aggressors.  
 
3) Minor: "Death penalty trials are more expensive . .   the execution itself costs millions."
 
Sharp: Does CCADP, ever, fact check /vet anything? Do they think? Not here. Minor, look at the cost studies for California, Texas, Maryland, Nevada, to start (5). As a rule death penalty trials are more expensive than LWOP trials, but not always . . .  , and you must take a look at all costs -
a) only, with the death penalty can you plea bargain to LWOP, a huge cost savings;
b) with LWOP, you will have 40-60 years of maximum security cell costs (up to $176,000/yr/prisoner in California);
c) 20-40 years of huge geriatric costs ($80,000/yr/prisoner in California). and
d) responsible death penalty protocols would have huge cost savings - since 1976, Virginia has executed 113 murderers, within 7 years of appeals on average, or 2-3 years per the three primary state and federal courts (SCOTUS is very rare). Don't conservatives prefer responsibility? Likely not CCADP.
e) there is no execution that has cost a million dollars. Totally absurd, as you would not know, as you did not fact check/vet.
 
4) Minor: "This is a reason why many police chiefs rank the death penalty last among public safety tools that are effective in neighborhoods and communities."
 
Sharp: It is, only, last depending upon the choices given, as detailed. The study you are referencing finds that 92% of police chiefs support the death penalty (6).  You left that out because . . . ?
 
5) Minor: "Despite the vast resources put into it, capital punishment doesn't even make us safer."
 
Sharp: First, the death penalty is provided for justice and, secondly and very important, the death penalty protects innocents, in three (six) ways, better than does life without parole (LWOP) (4).
 
6) Minor: "The money spent on the death penalty would be better spent on training and resources for law enforcement, on services for victims' families, on mental health services and violence prevention initiatives. . . building better relations between law enforcement and the community . . . lead(ing) to understanding and respect on both sides and ultimately create safety." " We can also do so much more for the family members of murder victims . .  . providing them with true healing services . . . that we are concerned about increasing the quality of their lives . . ."
 
Sharp: Obviously, all of which should occur with or without the death penalty. Minor is unaware.
              We can all see how well Illinois has accomplished all that, since abolishing the death penalty, and with defund the police . . . and defund the police Seattle no longer investigates nor prosecutes adult rape cases (7). Understanding and respect require honesty, which CCADP does not do well.  Obvious.
 
7) Minor: "The death penalty causes those families to face uncertainty through years of litigation and appeals processes, making life unbearable and painful. In seeking justice through the death penalty, we end up creating a conduit for anguish and trauma. "
 
Sharp: The death penalty does not do any of that. Bad management does. Don't conservatives (and liberals) want good management?  Since 1976, Virginia has executed 113 murderers, within 7 years of appeals, on average.
 
8) Minor: "Finally, the death penalty has claimed the lives of too many innocent people. DNA evidence has led to many exonerations, but even DNA evidence isn't always a guarantee for justice because DNA isn't available in many cases, and sometimes prosecutors fight tooth and nail to prevent the evidence from being entered. How can we claim to be pro-life and yet be comfortable with the fact that many lives have been maligned and victimized by a criminal justice system that has failed to represent them? When we get it wrong once, it's one time too many."
 
Sharp: Possibly, we may have proof of innocents executed, as recently as 1915.
 
Since 1973:
Some 20,000 additional innocents have been murdered by KNOWN murderers that we have allowed to murder, again - recidivist murderers and
Some 500,000 additional innocent have been murdered by those KNOWN criminals that we have allowed to harm, again - recidivist criminals.
 
I guess one isn't too many for Minor? Where are the innocents at risk? Think.
 
I have been sending CCADP reviews, like this, to CCADP and many others, since 2013 (1).
 
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600+ pro death penalty quotes from murder victim's families &
3300+ from some of the greatest thinkers in history
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1)  Full Rebuttal: Hannah Cox, National Manager, Conservatives Concerned About the Death Penalty (CCADP)
 
DEAD WRONG: (Montana) Conservatives Concerned About the Death Penalty (MCCATDP), 2013
 
Few Conservatives Embrace Anti Death Penalty Deceptions
 
2)  Religion and The Death Penalty
 
3) Here is a refresher on the philosophical foundations of Libertarian death penalty support.
 
Libertarians: Death Penalty Essential To Justice
 
 
 
The Death Row "Exonerated"/"Innocent" Frauds 
 71-83% Error Rate in Death Row "Innocent" Claims, Well Known Since 2000 
 
 
6)  See
para 5) figure 5, pg 15, , THE FRONT LINE: Law Enforcement Views on the Death Penalty , The Death Penalty Information Center,
within
 
 7) Seattle police stopped investigating new adult sexual assaults this year, memo shows June 1, 2022
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Additional research, w/sources, w/fact checking/vetting & critical thinking, as required of everyone.  
 
1) The Death Penalty: Justice & Saving More Innocents
and
Students, Academics & Journalists: Death Penalty Research
(7 pro-death penalty experts are included)
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Partial CV

Friday, April 08, 2022

Pope John Paul II: His death penalty errors

Pope John Paul II: His death penalty errors  
by Dudley Sharp, independent researcher, death penalty expert, former opponent, 832-439-2113, CV at bottom
  
October 1997, with subsequent updates thru 8/2025  
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Preface

With regard to post 1994 Roman Catholic anti-death penalty statements, Catholic theologian Steven Long places the arrow:

" . . . (it) is symptomatic of a society that can garner more support to spare the guilty than to save the innocent."


"The crowd still wants Barrabas."

and from Kevin L. Flannery S.J., Consultor of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, appointed by PJPII,

      “The most reasonable conclusion to draw from this discussion is that, once again, the Catechism is simply wrong from an historical point of view. Traditional Catholic teaching did not contain the restriction enunciated by Pope John Paul II." 
     “The realm of human affairs is a messy one, full of at least apparent inconsistency and incoherence, and the recent teaching of the Catholic Church on capital punishment—vitiated, as I intend to show, by errors of historical fact and interpretation—is no exception.” 
“Capital Punishment and the Law”, Ave Maria Law Review, 2007 (30 pp),
https://avemarialaw-law-review.avemarialaw.edu/Content/articles/V5i2.flannery.copyright.pdf 

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      The new Roman Catholic position on the death penalty, the 1997 CCC 2267 amendment, is based upon the thoughts of Pope John Paul II, whose position conflicts with reason and the facts (1), as well as biblical, theological and traditional Catholic teachings spanning nearly 2000 years, as well as eternal commands Genesis 9:5-6, of 4500 years ago, the biblical timeline.
      Pope John Paul II’s death penalty writings in Evangelium Vitae are flawed and their adoption into the Catechism was, therefore, improper and, therefore, invalid.
      In 1997, the Roman Catholic Church decided to amend the 1992 Universal Catechism to reflect Pope John Paul II’s comments within his 1995 encyclical, The Gospel of Life (Evangelium Vitae- EV). 
       By fact and reason, it was and is disastrous:
       1) Within EV, the Pope finds that the only time executions can be justified is when they are required “to defend society” and that “as a result of steady improvements . . . in the penal system that such cases are very rare if not practically non-existent.” 
Sharp: This is, complete, utter nonsense. Here is the Pope's very rare if not practically, non existent"

      Since 1973, the US has seen 500,000 ADDITIONAL murders by those KNOWN criminals that we have allowed to harm, again - recidivist criminals, which equates to an ADDITIONAL 3.5 million violent crimes by those KNOWN criminals that we have allowed to harm, again (1973-2025). (1). (as a rule violent crimes, other than murders, are 7 times the rate of murder).
      PJPll finds that "very rare if not practically non-existent", which excludes well known reality (1).
       Anyone, remotely, knowledgeable about the world's criminal activity and penal systems knows that PJPII's claim is false (1) and the Church has seen fit not to correct him, since 1995 (1) and, even worse, putting such nonsense into the 1997 amended CCC 2267. 
      By the numbers, it is worse than the priest sex horrors, but the same horror - innocents harmed over and over and over, again, promoted by ignorance, evil, choosing to protect the guilty over the innocent and the lack of reason, by PJPII (1-4), which had to be willful, as here:

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Pope John Paul II harms sex abuse victims, even more, by rewarding Cardinal Law with an honored post in Rome. Cardinal Law Given Post In Rome - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

"David G. Clohessy, national director , Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests: ''Why can't the Vatican officials see that any position of honor afforded to Law will inevitably and needlessly cause more pain to hundreds who have been abused and have already suffered enough? It just rubs salt into already deep wounds for parishioners, victims and their families.''  

The Church had to do it. The pattern (4).
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      Societal defense is, primarily, via laws, law enforcement and sanction.
      Executions are required when we know that innocents are better protected by the execution of unjust aggressors, which is unchallenged (1-4), and penal systems are well known to allow unjust aggressors to harm, over and over, again (1,2), unless following the false claims of the Church and PJPII (1-4).
      Neither is in dispute, rationally nor factually (1-4). But for PJPll,  "very rare if not practically non-existent".
      Murderers, as most criminals, tragically, harm or murder, again, way too often (1), as the Church and all, have known (1), way before 1995.
      Three issues, inexplicably, escaped the Pope’s consideration. 
      First, in the Pope’s context, “to defend society” means that the execution of the murderer must save future lives or, otherwise, prevent future harm (2,3). 
      When looking at the history of criminal justice practices in a) not incarcerating known criminals, b) pre- trial releases c) early releases d) probations, e) paroles and f) incarcerations, we all know that there are countless examples of when judgments and procedures failed and, because of that, murderers harmed and/or murdered, again (1,2). 
      Such was well known by PJPII and the Church, as all of us, way before 1995, 1997 and 2018 and that such meant, absolutely, nothing to them, with regard to protecting the innocent. 
      It is impossible for them not to have known, just like the priest sex scandal, whereby additional innocents were harmed, when that should have been stopped, but, knowingly, was not, until outside forces forced the Church to do so, as She unethically, immorally, would not, on Her own.
      That pattern is being repeated, herein (4) .

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PJPll refuses investigation of McCarrick, harming the Church and victims, again
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      History details that murderers murder and otherwise harm again, time and time again — in prison, after escape, after improper release, and, of course, after we fail to capture or incarcerate them (1,2).
      Reason dictates that living murderers, unjust aggressors are, infinitely, more likely to harm and/or murder again than are executed murderers (1,2).
      Rationally, uncontested.
      PJPII could err, by calling for a reduction or end to execution, and thus sacrifice more innocents, or he could “err” on the side of nearly 2000 years of Catholic teachings and by protecting more innocents by calling for an expansion of executions.
      He chose by sacrificing more innocents (4). Mercy?
      History, reason and the facts support an increase in executions based upon a defending society foundation (1-4). 
      Secondly, if social science concludes that executions provide enhanced deterrence for murders, then the Pope’s position should call for increased executions (2,3).
      If we decide that the deterrent effect of executions does not exist and we, therefore, choose not to execute, and we are wrong, this will sacrifice more innocent lives and also give those murderers the opportunity to harm and murder again.   
      Never have the deterrent effects of severe criminal sanction, the possibility of severe negative outcomes and severe negative incentives been negated, nor can they be. Never. 
      If we choose to execute, believing in the deterrent effect, and we are wrong, we are executing our worst human rights violators and preventing such murderers from ever harming or murdering again – again, saving more innocent lives.   
      Factually and rationally uncontested.

Nobel Prize Laureate (Economics) Gary Becker:

“the evidence of a variety of types — not simply the quantitative evidence — has been enough to convince me that capital punishment does deter and is worth using for the worst sorts of offenses.” (NY Times, 11/18/07)

"(Becker) is the most important social scientist in the past 50 years (NY Times, 5/5/14)

      No responsible social scientist has or will say that the death penalty deters no one. Quite a few studies, including 10 (now 24) recent ones, find that executions do deter (2,3).
      As all prospects for negative consequence deter some, it is a mystery why the Pope chose the option which spares murderers and sacrifices more innocent lives, exactly, the choice the Church made in protecting/hiding guilty priest sex offenders and, thereby, casing more harm to the innocent, reflecting a pattern.
      Factually and rationally uncontested.
      If the Pope’s defending society position has merit, then, again, the Church must actively support executions, as it offers an enhanced defense of society and greater protection for innocent life.   
      Thirdly, we know that some criminals don’t murder because of their fear of execution.  This is known as the individual deterrent effect.
      Unquestionably, the incapacitation effect (execution) and the individual deterrent effect both exist and they both defend society by protecting innocent life and offer enhanced protections over imprisonment (1-4).
      Furthermore, individual deterrence assures us that general deterrence must exist, because individual deterrence could not exist without it. Executions save more innocent lives in multiple ways (1-4).
      Therefore, PJPII's defending society standard should be a call for increasing executions. 
      Instead, the Pope and other Church leadership has chosen a position that spares the lives of known murderers, resulting in more innocents put at risk and more innocents harmed and murdered — a position which, quite clearly, contradicts both PJPII and the Holy See, as others' conclusions.  
      It could not be more obvious. 
      Contrary to the Church’s belief, that the Pope’s opinion represents a tougher stance against the death penalty, the opposite is, factually and rationally, true. 

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The Catholic Church & The Death Penalty
13 (15) Factual Errors: 2018 CCC 2267 amendment
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      When properly evaluated, the defending society position supports more executions. 
      Had these issues not been, willfully, avoided, prior to 1995, 1997 and 2018, the Catechism would never have been amended  —  unless the Church endorses a position knowing that it would spare the lives of guilty murderers, at the cost of sacrificing more innocent victims - very much duplicated by the Church's protecting/hiding guilty priest sexual offenders, at the known cost of more innocents harmed.
      When the choice is  between  1) sparing murderers, resulting in more harmed and murdered innocents, who suffer through endless moments of incredible horror, with no additional time to prepare for their salvation, or 2) executing murderers, who are given many years on death row to prepare for their salvation, and saving more innocents from being murdered,  the Pope and the Catholic Church have an obligation to spare the innocent, as Church tradition, the Doctors of the Church and many Saints have concluded. (see reference, below)   
       Pope John Paul II’s death penalty stance was his own, personal prudential judgement and does not bind, nor should bind, any other Catholic to share his position, which was devoid of truth, reflection, history and facts.
      Any Catholic can choose to support more executions, based upon their own prudential judgement, and remain a Catholic in good standing.   
      Prudential judgement requires a foundation of reasoned and thorough review. 
PJPII avoided both.
      A defending society position supports more executions, not less. Therefore, PJPll's prudential judgement was in error on this important fact.   
      Furthermore, defending society is an outcome of the death penalty, but is secondary to the foundation of justice and biblical instruction.   
      Even though Romans and additional writings do reveal a “defending society” consideration, such references pale in comparison to the mandate that execution is the proper punishment for murder, regardless of any consideration “to defend society.”  
      Both the Noahic covenant, in Genesis 9:6 (“Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed.”), and the Mosaic covenant, throughout the Pentateuch (Ex.: “He that smiteth a man so that he may die, shall be surely put to death.”  Exodus 21:12), provide execution as the punishment for unjustifiable/intentional homicide, otherwise known as murder.   
      These texts, and others, offer specific rebuttal to the Pope’s position that if “bloodless means” for punishment are available then such should be used, to the exclusion of execution. 
      Pope John Paul II’s error filled prudential judgement cannot trump eternal biblical instruction. The Church cannot believe that they do. 

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Catechism & The Death Penalty Problems: Section 2267:  
A Rational Deconstruction of Catholic Revisionism, 1995-2019 
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      Telling is the fact that Roman Catholic tradition instructs four elements to be considered with criminal sanction:

1.  Defense of society against the criminal. 
2.  Rehabilitation of the criminal (including spiritual rehabilitation). 
3.  Retribution, which is the reparation of the disorder caused by the criminal’s transgression. 
4.  Deterrence   

       It is a mystery why and how the Pope could have excluded three of these important elements and wrongly evaluated the fourth and how and why the Church put it into the CCC,
       In doing so, though, we can confirm that PJPII's review was in error, incomplete and improper.    
      At least two Saints, Paul and Dismas, faced execution and stated that it was appropriate. They were both executed.    
      The Holy Ghost decided that death was the proper punishment for two devoted, early Christians, Ananias and his wife, Saphira, for the crime/sin of lying. Neither was given a moment to consider their earthly punishment or to ask for forgiveness. The Holy Ghost struck them dead.   
      For those who erroneously contend that Jesus abandoned the Law of the Hebrew Testament, He states that He has come not “to abolish the law and the prophets . . . but to fulfill them.”  Matthew 5:17-22.  
       If one rejects Jesus' words, there may be an honest debate regarding the interpretation of Mosaic Law within a Christian context, but there is no dispute that the Noahic Covenant is still in effect and that Genesis 9:6 deals directly with the sanctity of life issue in its support of execution, for all peoples and all times.

(read “A Seamless Garment In a Sinful World” by John R. Connery, S. J., America, 7/14/84, p 5-8).   

“In his debates with the Pharisees, Jesus cites with approval the apparently harsh commandment, He who speaks evil of father or mother, let him surely die (Mt 15:4; Mk 7:10, referring to Ex 21:17; cf. Lev 20:9). (Cardinal Avery Dulles, SJ, 10/7/2000)   
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       Saint Pius V reaffirms this mandate, in the Roman Catechism of the Council of Trent (1566), stating that executions are acts of “paramount obedience to this [Fifth] Commandment.” 
       (“Thou shalt not murder,” sometimes improperly translated as “kill” instead of “murder”).  
       Not only do the teachings of Saints Thomas Aquinas and Augustine concur, but both saints also find that such punishment actually reflects charity and mercy by preventing the wrongdoer from sinning further.  
      The Saints position is that execution offers undeniable defense of society as well as defense of the wrongdoer.   Such prevention also expresses the fact that execution is an enhanced defense of society, over and above all other punishments.   
      The relevant question is “What biblical and theological teachings, developed from 1566 through 1997, provide that the standard for executions should evolve from ‘paramount obedience’ to God’s eternal law to a civil standard reflecting ‘steady improvements’ . . . in the penal system?”, when the civil standards in penal systems are, incredibly flawed, maybr, even, much worse than the Church's priest sex abuse horrors (1), as is well known, unless one is determined to be willfully ignorant, as PJPII and the Church have chosen to be.
       Such teachings hadn’t changed.  The Pope’s position is secular and social and contrary to factual, rational, biblical, theological and traditional teachings.
      Saint Pius V is correct, that executions represent “paramount obedience to the [Fifth] Commandments, then is it not disobedient to reduce or stop executions?   
      The Church’s position on the use of the death penalty has been consistent from Jesus through 1994 AD, but, really, for 4500 years when Genesis 9:5-6 is included, as the Church, properly, did, for nearly 2000 years.
      The Church has always supported the use of executions, based upon biblical and theological principles, until 1997. 
      Until 1995, says John Grabowski, associate professor of Moral Theology at Catholic University, ” . . .  Church teachings were supportive of the death penalty.  You can find example after example of Pope’s, of theologians and others, who have supported the right of the state to inflict capital punishment for certain crimes and certain cases.” “What he (the Pope now) says, in fact, in his encyclical, is that given the fact that we now have the ability, you know, technology and facilities to lock up someone up for the rest of their lives so they pose no future threat to society — given that question has been answered or removed, there is no longer justification for the death penalty.”  (All Things Considered, NATIONAL PUBLIC RADIO, 9/9/97.)   
      PJPII's position is now based upon his egregious, willful mischaracterization 2of corrections systems, a position neither biblical nor theological in nature, nor factually accurate.

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“Capital Punishment and Magisterial Authority”
"Fastiggi on Capital Punishment and the Change to the Catechism, 
Part I," Edward Feser, 8/26/2023,
Part 2, 8/30/2023
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        Long term incarceration of lawbreakers in Europe began in the 1500s.  Long term incarceration of slaves had begun thousands of years before —  meaning that all were aware that criminal wrongdoers could also be subject to bondage, if necessary – something that all historians and biblical scholars — now and then —  were and are well aware of.    
      Since it’s inception, the Church has issued numerous pronouncements, encyclicals and previous Universal Catechisms.  Had any biblical or theological principle called for a replacement of the death penalty by life imprisonment, it would have been revealed long before 1995 or 1997.    
      There is, finally, a disturbing reality regarding the Pope’s new standard.  The Pope’s defending society standard requires that the moral concept of justice becomes irrelevant.  The Pope’s standard finds that capital punishment can be used only as a vehicle to prevent future crimes. 
      Therefore, using the Pope’s standard, the moral/biblical rational — that capital punishment is the just or required punishment for murder — is no longer relevant to the sin/crime of murder.    
      If defending society is the new standard, the Pope has decided that the biblical standards of atonement, expiation, justice and required punishments have all, necessarily, been discarded, with regard to execution.   
      The Pope’s new position establishes that capital punishment no longer has any connection to the harm done or to the imbalance to be addressed.  Yet, such connection had always been, until now, the Church’s historical, biblically based perspective on this sanction.  
      Under PJPII's defending society standard, the injury suffered by the murder victim is no longer relevant to the murderer's punishment (4).
       Executions can be justified solely upon that punishments ability to prevent future harm by the murderer.  Therefore, when considering executions in regard to capital murder cases, a defending society standard renders justice irrelevant.  
      Yet, execution defends society to a degree unapproachable by any other punishment and, therefore, should have been fully supported by the Pope, when considering factual and rational truths,
      “Some enlightened people would like to banish all conception of retribution or desert from our theory of punishment and place its value wholly in the deterrence of others or the reform of the criminal himself.  They do not see that by doing so they render all punishment unjust. What can be more immoral than to inflict suffering on me for the sake of deterring others if I do not deserve it?” (quote attributed to the distinguished Christian writer C. S. Lewis)   
      Again, with regard to the Pope’s prudential judgement, his neglect of justice was most imprudent.   
      Some Catholic scholars, properly, have questioned the appropriateness of including prudential judgement within a Catechism. Personal opinion does not belong within a Catechism and, likely, will never be allowed, again. 
      I do not believe it had ever been allowed before.   
      In fact, neither the Church nor the Pope would accept a defending society standard for use of the death penalty, unless the Church and the Pope believed that such punishment was just and deserved, as well.  
      The Church has never questioned the authority of the government to execute in “cases of extreme gravity,” nor does it do so with these recent changes.    
      Certainly, the Church and Pope John Paul II believe that the prevention of any and all violent crimes fulfills a defending society position.  
      There is no doubt that executions defend society at a level higher than incarceration (1-3).
      Why has PJPII and many within Church leadership chosen a path that spares murderers at the cost of sacrificing more innocent lives, when they could have chosen a stronger defense of society which spares more innocents?   
      Properly, PJPII did not challenge the Catholic biblical and theological support for capital punishment.  The Pope has voiced his own, personal belief as to the appropriate application of that penalty.    
       So why has the Pope come out against executions, when his own position — a defense of society — which, both rationally and factually, has a foundation supportive of more executions? 
      It is unfortunate that the Pope, along with other leaders in the Church, have decided to, improperly, use a defending society position to speak against the death penalty.   
      The Pope’s position against the death penalty condemns more innocents and neglects justice.   

In Closing

      "It should not be overlooked, in seeking to discover “the mind of Jesus Christ” on the issue of murder and its punishments, that He goes beyond torah to the statement that even verbal abuse makes one deserving of “the hell of fire”.
      "Far from releasing believers from prior law, Jesus was a “hard liner” who made things even tougher, stating that He has come not “to abolish the law and the prophets . . .  but to fulfill them.”, offering even stronger interpretations than in the original (Matthew 5:17-22)."
      "Indeed, Jesus admonishes the Pharisees not to misuse torah for their own ends, but to honor God and torah. And of all the text in the Bible, which one does Jesus select to emphasize that crucial point? 'HE WHO SPEAKS EVIL OF FATHER OR MOTHER, LET HIM BE PUT TO DEATH' (Matthew 15:1-9)."

Partial and approved synopsis of Professor Lloyd R. Bailey’s book Capital Punishment: What the Bible Says, Abingdon Press, 1987

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1) Read footnote 4, first, then read the rest
Catechism & State Protection
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2014/10/catechism-state-protection.html

2) The Death Penalty: Saving More Innocent Lives


4) 30 Examples: How Death Penalty Abolitionists Value Murderers 
More Than Their Innocent Victims:
AKA - Full Rebuttal of Sir Richard Branson & His Death Penalty Comments

ADDITIONAL REFERENCE

This reference provides a thorough rebuke of the current Roman Catholic Church teachings against the death penalty and, particularly, deconstructs the many improper pronouncements made by the US Bishops, which they refuse to correct, their unethical position

Religion and The Death Penalty

Place later A sign of hope is the increas­ing recog­ni­tion that the dig­ni­ty of human life must nev­er be tak­en away, even in the case of some­one who has done great evil. Modern soci­ety has the means of pro­tect­ing itself, with­out defin­i­tive­ly deny­ing crim­i­nals the chance to reform. I renew the appeal I made most recent­ly at Christmas for a con­sen­sus to end the death penal­ty, which is both cru­el and unnec­es­sary.” (Homily at the Papal Mass in the Trans World Dome, St. Louis, Missouri, January 271999).

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       Research, w/sources, w/fact checking/vetting & critical thinking, as required of everyone in a public policy debate and which rebut all anti-death penalty claims.
        The media/academic norm is to use anti-death penalty material, refuse to fact check or vet it and avoid all pro-death penalty research and experts. How will you know that is true? You haven't seen this material, prior.
 
The Death Penalty: Justice & Saving More Innocents
and
Students, Academics & Journalists: Death Penalty Research
7 pro-death penalty experts

600+ pro death penalty quotes from murder victim's families &
3300+ from some of the greatest thinkers in history
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Partial CV

Thursday, March 17, 2022

Religion & The Death Penalty

Versions began 1997, last update 4/2026

Religion & The Death Penalty
aka The Catholic Church's Horrendous Anti-death Run, 1995 Forward
Dudley Sharp, independent researcher, death penalty expert, former opponent, 832-439-2113, CV at bottom

Preface

Here are 4000 (a guesstimate) pro death penalty factual, philosophical, biblical and theological references, which either
 
1) support the death penalty and/or which
2) refute the factual, biblical and/or theological objections to the death penalty.

the 4000  includes presented articles, footnotes from those articles, and on and on, through those additional footnoted articles and their footnotes.

NOTEProper Translation and Meaning
 
It is important to look at biblical commentators, regarding any biblical text.
 
This has up to 40 different commentaries, per biblical text. Use them.
 
For 4,500 years (biblical timeline), the death penalty has had religious support, starting with Genesis 9:5-6. Anti-death penalty teachings did not occur, in major Christian denominations, until the 1950's, with the Roman Catholic Church not joining that chorus until 2018 - 4500 years after Genesis 9:6.
 
Did the bible or basic theology, suddenly change? Of course not, as reviewed, in detail.

US Catholic Dioceses and Archdiocese have been receiving versions of these since 1997.
 
Through today and for more than 4500 years, there has been Noahic, Mosaic, Torah, Old Testament and Christian New Testament support for the death penalty, from Genesis to Revelation, from Jesus to St. Dismas, from the Holy Ghost (Ananias & Saphirra) to the greatest of Popes, Saints, Doctors and Fathers of the Church, church leadership, biblical and theological scholars, which, in breadth and depth, overwhelms any teachings to the contrary, particularly those wrongly dependent upon the Church not knowing of human dignity, until the 21st century, and upon the secular concerns, such as defense of society and the poor standards of criminal justice systems in protecting the innocent, which reference the blatant errors within Evangelium Vitae and the 1997/2018 amendments to the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) 22667, as detailed:

NOTE: Go to the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops website 
and enter "death penalty" in their search box. Everything which pops up is defeated, within this review, Religion and the Death Penalty. It will take you awhile to research, fact check and vet, everything, but you will be way ahead of the Church, which chose to avoid that process since, at least, 1995. 

Pope Francis Drove the Last Spike Through the Church's Anti-death Penalty Era, with this:

Pope Francis: "(Capital executions,) "far from bringing justice, fuel a sense of revenge that becomes a dangerous poison for the body of our civil societies," Pope Francis wrote, August, 2024 ("Death penalty fuels 'poison' of revenge in society, pope says", US Conference of Catholic Bishops,  https://www.usccb.org/news/2024/death-penalty-fuels-poison-revenge-society-pope-says)
       Neither the Pope, nor anyone at the Vatican, nor anyone within the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops seems to be aware that the Church claims that She cannot teach moral error, which is, of course, contradicted by Francis, who tells us the Church has been teaching moral error for over 2000 years, which requires bringing into question how wrong the Church may have been with all other of Her teaching for over 2000 years. Basic.
       That, factually and morally, defines the Catholic Church's disastrous anti-death penalty era, 1995 forward, as detailed, with no rebuttal nor correction, from the Church, since 1995, as detailed, herein:

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If you have a specific issue, just let me know.

1)  The Catholic Church & The Death Penalty
13 (15) Factual Errors: 2018 CCC 2267 amendment

update: Pope Francis asserts, that for 2000 years. the most respected Fathers and Doctors of the Church, popes and saints, other Church leadership, Catholic biblical and theological scholars, taught "poison" to the Catholic faithful, because of death penalty support, thus destroying confidence in any Catholic teachings. Vatican News,  July 18, 2024, 

2) Saint/Pope John Paul II marks the beginning of the Catholic Church's disastrous anti-death penalty run, 1995 forward, intentionally, avoiding the most basic of reason, research, fact checking and vetting, as detailed, throughout:

Pope John Paul II: His death penalty errors 

3) Catechism & The Death Penalty Problems: Section 2267: 
A Rational Deconstruction of Catholic Revisionism, 1995-2019

       Saint Pope John II (SPJPII) made a prudential judgement, within EV, and such judgement  had ,very, obvious factual and rational errors and, then, those errors were amended into CCC 2267.
      I do not believe that a prudential judgment has ever been entered into a Catechism, before, as such is contrary to the purpose of a catechism,  ". . . a text which contains the fundamental Christian truths formulated in a way that facilitates their understanding." (USCCB). 
      The amended 2267 is a solid example of the opposite of that purpose and why a prudential judgement should never have been placed within a Catechism and, hopefully, such will not occur, again, with these CCC errors, ultimately, corrected.

4) Catechism & State Protection: The Gross Negligence of the Holy See

The Church/SPJPII call the following cases "very rare if not practically non-existent.”

In modern criminal justice systems, from 1973-2026 in the US:
      20,000 ADDITIONAL innocents were murdered by those KNOWN murderers that we allowed to murder, again -recidivist murderers.
      500,000 ADDITIONAL innocents were murdered by those KNOWN criminals that we allowed to harm, again - recidivist criminals, which equates to
      3.5 million ADDITIONAL innocents were raped, robbed or otherwise assaulted by those KNOWN criminals  that we allowed to harm, again - recidivist criminals

and on and on and on, in the US, alone, and magnified throughout the world, as the Church must know.

The Church abandons the innocent victims, again. She cannot help Herself from doing so.

5)  Three questions for Catholic opponents of capital punishment, 
Dr. Edward Feser, Catholic World Report, 9/15/2019,

"Pope Francis' conclusions are not only absurd, they are obscene."

6) Catholic Leaders Misinterpret Holy Scriptures on Capital Punishment in Breathtaking Ways, The Stream, Dr. Jules Gomes BA, BD, MTh, PhD, June 10, 2024

https://stream.org/catholic-leaders-misinterpret-holy-scriptures-on-capital-punishment-in-breathtaking-ways/
        “Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ,” St. Jerome 
         Archbishop Vincenzo Paglia, president of the Pontifical Academy for Life,  " . . . displayed his cavernous ignorance of the Holy Bible in a recent pronouncement on the death penalty."

7) Francis Uses Junk Theology to End the Death Penalty, Monica Miller, Crisis Magazine, August 6, 2018,   https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/francis-junk-theology-end-death-penalty
      Miller states the obvious, somehow missed by Pope Francis, but she leaves out many of the other, obvious issues, detailed, throughout this review.


8a)  The Death Penalty: Mercy, Expiation, Redemption & Salvation

       Romano Amerio:  Some opposing capital punishment ". . . go on to assert that a life should not be ended because that would remove the possibility of making expiation, is to ignore the great truth that capital punishment is itself expiatory."

and

8b) "Judaism's Pro-Death Penalty Tradition", Steven Plaut, PhD, Haifa University, Apr. 23, 2004 article for JewishPress.com found here:
https://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2026/01/judaisms-pro-death-penalty-tradition.html
         ". . . capital punishment is regarded by Judaism as a favor for the capital sinner, a form of atonement and redemption." "Ordinary murderers are allowed to achieve atonement for their souls in their execution. "  " . . .  execution preserves human dignity, it does not defile it."
       "The Bible makes it crystal clear that the way one acknowledges that human souls are created in God`s image and deserving of respect and dignity is through capital punishment. Not just among Jews, by the way, but among all sons of Noah. " . . . the preservation of human dignity requires capital punishment of convicted murderers. It is precisely because of man`s creation in God`s image that capital punishment is declared justified and necessary."
      "(Capital punishment) should be implemented because it represents a great moral statement." "It is the moral and ethical thing to do." "Capital punishment represents a moral and just vengeance. It represents a declaration of good and evil."
      "It is for this moral reason that traditional Judaism unambiguously endorses the death penalty for premeditated murder ."

9)  Jesus and the Death Penalty

      As Cardinal Avery Dulles, SJ states: "At no point, however, does Jesus deny that the State has authority to exact capital punishment. In his debates with the Pharisees, Jesus cites with approval the apparently harsh commandment, He who speaks evil of father or mother, let him surely die (Mt 15:4; Mk 7:10, referring to Ex 21:17; cf. Lev 20:9)." "Jesus commends the good thief on the cross next to Him, who has admitted that he and his fellow thief are receiving the due reward of their deeds (Lk 23:41). "

10) Death Penalty: Catholic Ignorance Again and Again and Again

11) Does the Death Penalty Conflict with traditional Catholic Principles?
Society of Saint Pius X,  October 15, 2017, 

This shows how both John Paul II and Pope Francis are fully contradicted by the Church's traditional teachings and how and why those teachings, by fact and reason, are far stronger than the very weak changes that both Popes adavnced.

12) Pro Life: The Death Penalty
      The death penalty/executions protect and save innocent lives, in six ways, better than life without parole (LWOP), meaning dead penalty abolition equals many more innocent murders, which brings about this reality, just below.
       Based upon biblical and theological teachings, as well as secular realities, one can, reasonably and accurately, find the death penalty pro-life. 

13) 30 Examples: How Death Penalty Opponents Value Murderers 
More Than Their Innocent Victims
Complete Rebuttal of Sir Richard Branson
      Well known anti-death penalty scholars/leaders "(Charles) Black and (Hugo Adam) Bedau said they would favor abolishing the death penalty even if they knew that doing so would increase the homicide rate by 1,000 percent." (7), meaning they prefer an ADDITIONAL 9 milli0n innocents murdered (1973-2023), in exchange for saving the lives of 1500 capital murderers. 

Grotesque and part of the pattern, as detailed.

14)  See para 13, "Unnatural Lawyering", first, then start at the beginning:
By Man Shall His Blood Be Shed: A Catholic Defense of Capital Punishment
      "Feser systematically refutes the arguments of those who think the Church now teaches that capital punishment is intrinsically unjust.  He helps readers to see how weak our attachment to justice has become and how little we allow tight reasoning about justice to govern our thinking…" 
      " . . . the book simply flattens (death penalty) opponents." "(Bessette)  uses this data to refute claims made by the (United States Conference of Catholic Bishops) that capital punishment has no deterrent power, that innocent persons are regularly executed, that the application of the death penalty has been unfairly applied to minorities and the poor."
      "This leaves the Catholic who claims that the death penalty is always and intrinsically evil with two options. He can give up this extreme claim. (He might still hold that capital punishment is a bad idea in practice – I’m not addressing that question here.) Or he can give up the Church’s claims about the authority of scripture and tradition – which is really to give up Catholicism itself, since this would undermine the Church’s foundation in the deposit of faith. There is no third option, and it is sophistry to pretend otherwise." 

15) The Legitimacy of Capital Punishment,
by Fr. John A. Hardon, S.J.,
https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?id=6871&repos=1&subrepos=0&searchid=1486390 

16) Forgiveness and Murder
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2012/10/forgiveness-and-murder-compiled-and.html
      If we go by biblical instruction, it includes that the wrongdoer confess their wrong, find honest sorrow and remorse and state that they will do all they can to not harm again - to change their ways, prior to any forgiveness being given, by the specific party harmed.
      To forgive those who have not repented is to give approval of what they have done, while rejecting the importance of responsibility and atonement. It would not be mercy, but insult.

17) The Death Penalty: Neither Hatred nor Revenge
https://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2017/05/death-penalty-revenge.html       
      Neither the judges nor jurors can have any connection to the individuals or circumstances of the murders, must presume the defendant innocent, until (or if) proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, with laws and sanctions that existed prior to the murders . . .  laws outside the control of the judge or jurors, within a system that provides super due process, in pre-trial, trial, appeals and executive consideration within pardons or commutation, offering greater protections and safeguards than with any other sanction,- with the jury having to vote 48-0 (4 votes for the 12 jurors), 100%,  against the defendant/murderer in order to get a death penalty, but only 1 out of that 48, 2%, needs to be for the defendant/murderer, to evade the death penalty,  all of which exclude a revenge component.

18)  Sister Helen Prejean: 
Her Lies, Deceptions and/or Astounding Willful Ignorance? - A Compilation
https://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2023/04/sister-helen-prejean-her-lies_15.html  
      "Devinci's investigative research indicates that Prejean's "Dead Man Walking" is not honest."
       Prejean's next book, "Thee Death of Innocents" ' . . . is moreover riddled with factual errors and misrepresentations.” ” . . . despite repeated claims that (Prejean) cares about crime victims, she implies that the victim’s husband was a more likely suspect but was overlooked because the authorities wanted to convict a black man.”  
      Truly foul.
      ” . . . a Federal District Court . . . stated that ‘the evidence against Williams was overwhelming.’  " “The same court also did “not find any evidence of racial bias specific to this case.”
       and on and on and on

19)  Is The Catholic Mobilization Network (CMN) a Lying Institution or . . . ?
https://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2024/12/is-catholic-mobilization-network-lying.html
           All of CMN's anti-death penalty claims are either rebutted or the pro-death penalty positions are shown to be stronger, here:
      Research, w/sources, w/fact checking/vetting & critical thinking, as required of everyone in a public policy debate and which rebut all anti-death penalty claims.
      The media/academic norm is to use anti-death penalty material, refuse to fact check or vet it and avoid all pro-death penalty research and experts. How will you know that is true? Dead on:
 The Death Penalty: Justice & Saving More Innocents
https://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2013/05/the-death-penalty-justice-saving-more.html
and
Students, Academics & Journalists: Death Penalty Research
(7 pro-death penalty experts are included)
https://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2022/01/students-death-penalty-research.html 
600+ pro death penalty quotes from murder victim's families &
3300+ from some of the greatest thinkers in history
http://prodpquotes.info/ 

20) Catholic/Journalism /Elizabeth Bruenig/The Atlantic Anti-Death Penalty Nonsense  . . . Never Ends 
https://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2025/07/catholic-anti-death-penalty-nonsense.html       
"Within (Christian) moral order, we believe that both justice and mercy are to be operative. It is not enough to so concentrate on, the practice of merciful charity as to overlook or ignore the corresponding practice of justice. Nor is it pertinent to say that 'capital punishment does not in the least redress the injustice committed against the murdered victim or anyone else.' On the contrary, capital punishment does help to redress the injustice committed both against the murdered victim and, esp6cially, against the Someone Else who is God."  see para 15

21) Anti-Victim/Anti-Death Penalty Movement  
https://prodpi7nnc.blogspot.com/2014/04/anti-victim-anti-death-penalty-movement.html           
The anti-death penalty strategy and mantra could well be: "Our efforts are so cruel to murder victim's families, you must stop the death penalty".

22) What Did Jesus Teach about Violence and Turning the Other Cheek? 
by: J. Daryl Charles, Timothy J. Demy, Crossway, May 16, 2014,
https://www.crossway.org/articles/what-did-jesus-teach-about-violence-and-turning-the-other-cheek/
      " . . .  Jesus is challenging his listeners to consider their attitudes so that they respond properly to personal injustice or insult. That insult (personal injury) rather than assault (public injury) is at issue here is suggested by the mention of the right cheek being struck. And it is clarified by the further illustration, “If someone wants to . . . take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well” (Matthew 5:40). Handling insults and matters of clothing (a basic human need) are not the realm of statecraft and public policy."
      "Even when Jesus forbids the sword as a means to advance the kingdom of God, the New Testament does not teach an absolute or principled pacifism. Nor does it forbid the Christian from “bearing the sword”— or serving as a magistrate, for that matter—in the service of society and the greater good of the community."

23)  "The Death Penalty”, Chapter XXVI, 187. The death penalty, from the book Iota Unum, by Romano Amerio, 
domid.blogspot.com/2007/05/amerio-on-capital-punishment.html
titled “Amerio on capital punishment “, May 25, 2007    
      Thoughtful deconstruction of current Roman Catholic teaching on capital punishment by a faithful Catholic Vatican insider. Romano Amerio was an episcopal consultant to the Central Preparatory Commission of Vatican II and was a peritus for the Bishop of Lugano during the Council. A true insider to the Council's activities. He was Italian by nationality, was a man of broad and classical erudition, who taught philosophy, Greek and Latin at the Academy of Lugano, Switzerland from 1928 to 1970. 

24) Full Rebuttal: John 8 - Jesus and the Death Penalty
https://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2024/07/full-rebuttal-how-jesus-position-on.html
and
 John 8: The Woman Caught in Adultery – Dealing with Capital Offenses Lawfully
https://www.oocities.org/theonomistic/adultry.html
and
The Woman Caught in Adultery, the Death Penalty & John 8:2-11
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2013/06/the-woman-caught-in-adultery-death.html
Somehow Evans, The Church and many others, are unaware of what "God demands" with the accounting for murder being that the murderer's blood "SHALL" be shed, "For in the image of God  have human beings been made."

25) Capital Punishment and Magisterial Authority”
"Fastiggi on Capital Punishment and the Change to the Catechism, 

Part I," Edward Feser, 8/6/2023,
Part II, Edward Feser, 8/30/2023

Part I: " . . . the (CCC 2267, 2018) revision focuses only on statements from the tradition that seem unfavorable towards capital punishment while entirely ignoring the mountain of statements from scripture, the Fathers and Doctors of the Church, and previous popes that are clearly favorable to it.  The revision also entirely ignores the empirical considerations favoring the judgment that there are at least some cases where public safety would best be served by keeping the death penalty on the books.  The revision thereby gives the impression that capital punishment is intrinsically wrong, and that social scientists are in agreement that it is never needed in order to save lives – neither of which is true."

Part II: " . . .  even Catholic scholar E. Christian Brugger, who is not only opposed to capital punishment but would like the Church to go as far as condemning it as intrinsically immoral, admits that there is what he calls a “patristic consensus” on the thesis that capital punishment is legitimate at least in principle, even among those who opposed resorting to it in practice (Capital Punishment and Roman Catholic Moral Tradition, p. 95)."
       " . . . in A Treatise on the Soul, Tertullian says that “we do not account those to be violent deaths which justice awards, that avenger of violence.”  Lactantius, in The Divine Institutes, acknowledges that a man can be “justly condemned to [be] slain.”  In Ad Demetrianum, Cyprian indicates that if Christianity really were a crime, the state would justly “put the man that confesses it to death.”  These Fathers did indeed nevertheless oppose the use of the death penalty in practice, but they do not teach that it is intrinsically wrong."
       "Genesis 9:6 famously states: “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for God made man in his own image.”  This passage has for millennia been understood by Catholic and Jewish commentators as sanctioning the death penalty, and as Bessette and I show at pp. 99-101 of our book, there is no plausible alternative way of reading it."
      " . . . the Old Testament merely permits, but does not require, slavery and polygamy.  The Israelites are not told that they must take slaves or marry more than one woman.  They are told at most only that if they do these things, then there are certain conditions they must follow.  By contrast, the use of the death penalty is positively commanded many times in the Old Testament.  Moreover, these commands are not ad hoc in nature, directed to some specific temporary purpose (as are divine directives to the Israelites to destroy this or that pagan city, say).  Rather, the Mosaic Law makes the death penalty a standing and normal part of the everyday life of the nation of Israel."
      "Hence, if capital punishment were intrinsically or of its very nature “an attack on the inviolability and dignity of the person,” we would be left with the conclusion that scripture not only permitted, but positively commanded the Israelites to set up the very structure of their society in a manner that was inherently and gravely contrary to the good of human beings.  We would be left with the conclusion that scripture thereby led the Israelites into grave moral error.  But that is not possible given the Church’s doctrine that scripture cannot teach moral error."

26) “Capital Punishment: What the Bible Says”, Dr. Lloyd R. Bailey, 
Abingdon Press, 1987. A definitive biblical review of the death penalty.  
       "All interpretations, contrary to t7e biblical support of capital punishment, are false.  Interpreters ought to listen to the Bible’s own agenda, rather than to squeeze from it implications for their own agenda. As the ancient rabbis taught, “Do not seek to be more righteous than your Creator.’  (Ecclesiastes Rabbah 7.33.)."

27) “The Purpose of Punishment (in the Catholic tradition)”, by R. Michael Dunningan, J.D., J.C.L., CHRISTIFIDELIS, Vol.21,No.4, sept 14, 2003 
or

       "If the Pope were to deny that the death penalty could be an exercise of retributive justice, he would be overthrowing the tradition of two millennia of Catholic thought, denying the teaching of several previous popes, and contradicting the teaching of Scripture." — Avery Cardinal Dulles
       Dunnigan looks at both sides of the religious debate. What he doesn't do is to condemn the factual and rational errors of Pope John Paul II (para 2&3). How and why?

28) “God’s Justice and Ours” by Antonin Scalia, First Things, 5/2002 

29) Forgotten Truths: “Is The Church Against Abortion and The Death Penalty”, by Luiz Sergio Solimeo, Crusade Magazine, p14-16, May/June 2007 

       Pope Pius XII (1939-1958) in his speech of March 13, 1943 to the parish priests of Rome:    “God … the fountain of justice reserved to himself the right over life and death. … Human life is untouchable except for legitimate individual self-defense, a just war carried out with just methods, and the death penalty meted out by public authority for extremely grave and very specific and proven crimes”                    
         In another speech, the same Holy Father clarifies: “Even when executing a condemned individual, the State does not have a right over the person’s life. The public authority is empowered to deprive a condemned man of his life to expiate his fault since by his own crime he divested himself from his right to life.”

30) New Testament Death Penalty Support Overwhelming

Saint (& Pope) Pius V, "The just use of (executions), far from involving the crime of murder, is an act of paramount obedience to this (Fifth) Commandment which prohibits murder." "The Roman Catechism of the Council of Trent" (1566).

31) “Capital Punishment: A Catholic Perspective” at 
https://sspx.org/en/news/capital-punishment-catholic-perspective-5650

"The error of conceiving capital punishment as a moral evil is pervasive in the Catholic Church today. Arguments against the death penalty, as voiced by Catholics, have a common denominator, namely, the punishment is unchristian. The charge is most unusual because the Church perennially has defended the right of the State to put a criminal to death. In effect the current anti-capital punishment sentiment accuses the Church of uncharitable behavior for two millennia because she has sanctioned the State's right to 'carry the sword,' as St. Paul puts it (Romans 13:4)."

 
32) Does Truth Matter? Sister Prejean, The Church & U of Notre Dame 

It is instructive that the U of Notre Dame would choose Sister Prejean for this chat, as her book, "The Death of Innocents", was a total disaster of inaccuracies, with such the topic of the chat.
 
33)  Call for the Resignation of Pope Francis, 16 signatories, St. Athanasius of Alexandria, May 2, 2024, 
 
With two main issues (explained in detail)
1) Pope Francis has committed criminal acts gravely damaging to the Church and to individual believers.  
2. He has shown that he rejects the Catholic faith, and has worked to destroy the faith of other Catholics.

34) The unbearable ugliness of the Catholic Church, 
from Catholic author DAMON LINKER, This Week, 29 Aug 2018
https://theweek.com/articles/792775/unbearable-ugliness-catholic-church

"In Erie, a 7-year-old boy was sexually abused by a priest who then told him he should go to confession and confess his "sins" to that same priest. Another boy was repeatedly raped from ages 13 to 15 by a priest who bore down so hard on the boy's back that it caused severe spine injuries. He became addicted to painkillers and later died of an overdose. One victim in Pittsburgh was forced to pose naked as Christ on the cross while priests photographed him with a Polaroid camera. Priests gave the boy and others gold cross necklaces to mark them as being "groomed" for abuse. [The Washington Post]"

and on and on and on . . . .

35) Pope Francis, My Worst Protestant Nightmare, by Carl R. Trueman,
First Things, April 22, 2025

36)  Another Christian Anti-death Penalty Disaster

37)  Four Catholic Journals Indulge in (anti-death penalty) Doctrinal Solipsism, Steven Long, THOMISTICA, March 5, 2015,

"The editorial manifests a wondrously positivistic indifference to, and disregard for, distinctions in doctrine.  That all the Doctors and Fathers of the Church--with the exception of Tertullian who died outside the faith-- have taught the essential validity of capital punishment; and that it is the teaching of the Council of Trent that where all the Fathers and Doctors hold one interpretation of Scripture as the proper one, Catholics are to accept it, are two propositions that signify very little in the oppressive culture of mutationist accounts of doctrinal development."
 
38) Magisterial Irresponsibility, First Things, 10/18

"The word for doctrinal breaks is heresy. The Church has taught for two millennia that the death penalty is essentially valid. This is taught in Sacred Scripture, and has been affirmed by popes, numerous catechisms, the consensus of the Fathers of the Church, and the teaching of St. Thomas  Aquinas. If this teaching is erroneous, then the whole of the ordinary universal magisterium of the Church—­especially its moral magisterium—is merely a contingent effect of ecclesial will. The nihilistic voluntarism of such a view is incompatible with Catholic faith."
 
39) Archbishop Chaput: “Both Scripture and long Christian tradition acknowledge the legitimacy of capital punishment . . . " "The Church cannot repudiate (the death penalty) without repudiating her own identity." "Archbishop Chaput clarifies Church’s stance on death penalty", CNA, Catholic News Agency, Oct 18, 2005. Chaput was then archbishop of Denver, now of Philadelphia

40)  BISHOPS HIDE TRUTH FROM THEIR FLOCK: DEATH PENALTY 

The Nebraska Bishops are presenting error after error, week after week. It is long overdue to end it. They will not. Simply the anti-death penalty norm.
 
41) Catholic Bishops: So Wrong on Death Penalty
       What the Bishops are saying, now, as many others in Church leadership, today, is that for 2000 years the Church has supported a sanction which opposes justice, supports vengeance, takes away human dignity and life's value.
        All responsible Catholics know that to be false.
       The Church's teachings on the sanction, for over 2000 years, are the exact opposite of what the Bishops are, now, saying, which anyone familiar with Church teachings would know.

42) Moral Hypocrisy: European Union & The US Death Penalty

Now that Belgium and, possibly, the EU, are to agree that some children, of any age, are mature enough to invite death, I guess the EU and those US Supreme Court Judges will have to change their opinions on the possibility that 16-17 year old rapist/murderers may discern the error of their ways, to the point that execution may be an option. Well, no. Hypocrisy  and irrationality will rule the day.

43)Judaism & the Death Penalty 2: Rabbi Shlomo Brody & Jonathan Silver https://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2023/08/judaism-death-penalty-2-rabbi-shlomo.html

44)  Religion and the Death Penalty, (aka Rebuttal to Albert Camus)
By Walter Berns, The Weekly Standard, February 04, 2008,

45) “At the Death House Door” Can Rev. Carroll Pickett be trusted?

46)  CATHOLICISM & CAPITAL PUNISHMENT, 
by Avery Cardinal Dulles, First Things, April 2001, 

           "No passage in the New Testament disapproves of the death penalty." "In the Old Testament the Mosaic Law specifies no less than thirty-six capital offenses calling for execution . . .". 
        "The death penalty was considered especially fitting as a punishment for murder since in his covenant with Noah God had laid down the principle, “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in His own image” (Genesis 9:6)." 
          "In his debates with the Pharisees,         Jesus cites with approval the apparently harsh commandment, “He who speaks evil of father or mother, let him surely die” (Matthew 15:4; Mark 7:10, referring to Exodus 2l:17; cf. Leviticus 20:9)."  
      "Turning to Christian tradition, we may note that the Fathers and Doctors of the Church are virtually unanimous in their support for capital punishment."                             Saint Augustine writes in The City of God: "Since the agent of authority is but a sword in the hand, and is not responsible for the killing, it is in no way contrary to the commandment, “Thou shalt not kill” to wage war at God’s bidding, or for the representatives of the State’s authority to put criminals to death, according to law or the rule of rational justice." 
         " . . . leading canonists and theologians assert the right of civil courts to pronounce the death penalty for very grave offenses such as murder and treason.             Thomas Aquinas and Duns Scotus invoke the authority of Scripture and patristic tradition, and give arguments from reason."
      "When Pilate calls attention to his authority to crucify him, Jesus points out that Pilate’s power comes to him from above-that is to say, from God (John 19:11). 
        Jesus commends the good thief on the cross next to him, who has admitted that he and his fellow thief are receiving the due reward of their deeds (Luke 23:41)."
       I rebut all of Dulles' review of the secular "facts" of the death penalty, here (1).  Sadly, he didn't stick to his own identity: " I am here addressing the subject as a theologian." He made no efforts to fact check nor vet the false anti-death penalty and secular objections to the death penalty,  just as the Church. I do (1).

47)  The Death Penalty: Fair and Just
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2013/12/is-death-peanalty-fairjust.html
       Reviews race, ethnicity, class, gender and others.

48)  Pre-Constantine Death Penalty Support

49)  Judaism & the Death Penalty


51)  Quakers & The Death Pen8alty

52) “The Death Penalty”, by Solange Strong Hertz at 
 
53) A Refutation of the ELCA Social Statement on the Death Penalty

54)  Is There a Biblical Requirement for Two Eyewitnesses for Criminal Prosecution? 
 
55)  The Death Penalty: Justice & Saving More Innocents
 
56)  The Death Row "Exonerated"/"Innocent" Frauds 
 71-83% Error Rate in Death Row "Innocent" Claims, Well Known Since 2000 

57) Sister Catherine Nichol (Billings), Letter: Death penalty isn't the Christian way, Billings Gazette, April 01, 2009

 
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1) Research, w/sources, w/fact checking/vetting & critical thinking, as required of everyone in a public policy debate and which rebut all anti-death penalty claims or which prove the pro death penalty positions are stronger, within every issue.
 
The media/academic norm is to use anti-death penalty material, refuse to fact check or vet it and/or avoid all pro-death penalty research and experts or pretend that is the case. How will you know that is true? Read on. 
 
The Death Penalty: Justice & Saving More Innocents
and
Students, Academics & Journalists: Death Penalty Research
(7 pro-death penalty experts are included)

600+ pro death penalty quotes from murder victim's families &
3300+ from some of the greatest thinkers in history

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Maybe future edits, below
 
“Catholic and other Christian References: Support for the Death Penalty”, at 
 
“MOST CATHOLICS OPPOSE CAPITAL PUNISHMENT?”, KARL KEATING’S E-LETTER, Catholic Answers, March 2, 2004  
 
“THOUGHTS ON THE BISHOPS’ MEETING: NOWADAYS, VOTERS IGNORE BISHOPS” , KARL KEATING’S E-LETTER, Catholic Answers,, Nov. 22, 2005